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Various questions about water filters in water ionizer | Single filter or two filter system | Filter Variations |

Questions about water ionizer filters and calcium layer etc. - hydrogen content

  • If you have a decalcification system in your house that uses salt to decalcify the water, and the filter doesn't filter out the salt, does this have an impact on the water when it goes to electrolysis? Does this then result in a very basic lye and very acidic water, i.e. anolyte and catholyte? And the salt tablets are certainly not the healthiest salt. Can I prevent this somehow?
  • Can you tell me what the differences are in the water ionizer filters? Is there a qualitative difference? For example, a water ionizer with two filters will produce water that is twice as clean?
  • Should I have my water tested beforehand so they can provide me with the correct filter?
  • Can the water ionizers (e.g. the “AquaVolta Moses”) only deliver filtered water, i.e. without electrolysis?
  • Why does the “Moses” filter have a calcium layer? Our tap water already has a relatively high amount of calcium (107 mg/l).
  • I will probably decide between the “Moses” water ionizer and the “Eos Genesis”. When does which device make the most sense?
  • If you make the water less alkaline, does that mean that it doesn't contain as much hydrogen?

Many thanks for your help!

With kind regards,
Christoph Rösch

Answer from Yasin Akgün about general questions when choosing a water filter

Dear Mister.

If you have any questions, we would be happy to hear from you. I will also try:

Don't worry about the descaling/ion exchanger. If possible, set the hardness to °dH8-10.
If the flow is low, the highly alkaline water will otherwise taste moody. But if none of this is an issue, there is too little salting. ECA systems use salt concentrations of between 4,5 and 7%, i.e. much more.

More about that in this video:
www.aquacentrum.de/faqs/macht-es-sinn-bei-hartem-kalkhaltenm-wasser-das-wasser-vorher-zu-enthaerten/

Because of differences to water ionizers:
Briefly and succinctly I can say the following from my experience:
Every ionizer can produce basic, hydrogen-containing water to some extent.
The maximum achievable values ​​for many ionizers are also quite high, i.e. pH 10,5-11, with a very low minimum flow.
The only difference is that most ionizers do not have good or user-friendly limescale protection, and so the values ​​go down after a few days or weeks.

And the other issue is installation, most people want an under-sink ionizer:
www.aquacentrum.de/shop/eos-revelation-ll-untertisch-wasserioniser/
It is currently heavily discounted because I would like to fulfill my customers' wishes

The third important issue is the reliability of the water ionizers.
Many water ionizers fail in the first 5 years, whereas others still work very well after 10 years, and the taste of the water tastes like it did on the first day, like delicious water with no aftertaste, except for the strong alkaline taste at a high ionization level low flow.
If the water is filtered, it should taste like pure water.
Not moldy or anything like that

EOS makes the most reliable water ionizers:
www.aquacentrum.de/shop/eos-revelation-ll-untertisch-wasserioniser/
www.aquacentrum.de/shop/eos-touch-wasserioniser/
www.aquacentrum.de/shop/eos-genesis-wasserioniser/

Then the manufacturer Ionia, the AquaVolta® Moses 7, is very easy to install on the tap because it has a rotary control.
www.aquacentrum.de/shop/aquavolta-moses-7-wasserioniser/

It may break in the first 1-2 weeks, but then it will be replaced straight away. But when it is running, these devices run the longest so far, and we have already exchanged several devices that are over 12 years old for a new model. They were all still fully functional.

When this matter is clear, there is not much left.
Either a double system, i.e. an EOS, or the simplest one, the Moses 7, which is ideal for connecting to the tap.
In terms of filters, a double filter system is of course better in terms of performance, but when it comes to heavy metal salts, activated carbon filters that are not made for salts tend to fail.
So rather uncertain filter performance.
Then you would use a pre-filter, but only if you are concerned about heavy metal salts.

The best place to have a detailed water analysis done is here:

www.reefanalytics.com/Laborprobe/Wasseranalytik-WA-Premium::452.html
If something comes out, we'll continue to see whether a pre-fitter is necessary.

Yes, all water ionizers can only deliver filtered water even without electrolysis. Every water that comes out of the water ionizer is filtered.

Because of calcium:
www.aquacentrum.de/faqs/wie-schlimm-das-calciumsulfit-den-filtern-is-especially-against-the-background-that-we-also-use-richly-filtered-water-without-ionization/

Of course, the less power, the lower the pH value, as well as the dissolved molecular hydrogen content and the associated negative redox potential (abundance of electrons in the negative, minus sign range), which can be up to -600mV.

Posted your questions online if I may.
All the best
Yours, Yasin Akgün

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