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FAQ answer to: “The nightmare with the technical alkaline water ionized water Dr. med. Dr. ing. Petrov | QS24”

Subject: Inquiry about building lime in the water

Good day.

After watching countless videos, I'm totally unsettled.

What do you say about the fact that building lime is the ionizer in water?

Here is the video: (see video)

Please enlighten me.

Best regards, Thomas A.

Hello Mr. A.,

You have to live with your uncertainty mentioned below in the world of the Internet. It's like the big state library that you go to for the first time as a first-year student, and yet it is fundamentally different because no one manages this body of knowledge there, especially no knowledgeable librarians. Since I have been dealing with the topic of ionized water for 18 years now, I ask your forgiveness for no longer watching videos from private TV channels where any idiot can buy airtime for cash. I was a victim of such a paid interview invitation years ago and I regret it very much. The channel was called “Querdenker-TV” and you can imagine that I was in the wrong place. Because I studied thinking at university and not lateral thinking.

You can find everything you need to know about “building lime” here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baukalk

But the whole thing has nothing to do with ionized water. A building would have to have been under water for a very, very long time for some form of building lime to dissolve in it. And if it does, over time, that would be very good.
The calcium ions, which are extremely useful for us, appear in the water and the carbonic acid ions, which evaporate as CO2 gas when heated. In the basic part of the ionized water from an ionizer, the carbon dioxide problem is already solved by proton removal. This means we even get more calcium ions into the water, which our bones and nerves are very happy about because they are very easily bioavailable in this form.

The most important advantage of getting the most frequently needed calcium ions from water and not from food is the calories. The greatest density of calcium in the diet can be found in fatty cheeses. It makes us fat, and when we have a deficit, which can easily happen with an acidic lifestyle, we constantly have an appetite for foods that make us fat.

Calcium ions from drinking water are highly wanted (bioavailable)) by our body. But if we bite into the fatty cheese too much, i.e. consume a lot of fat at the same time as the calcium ion, the excess fat grabs a calcium ion and arteriosclerosis can develop. That's why alkaline activated water separates the absorption of calcium ions from the absorption of calcium through high-calorie food by delivering these ions pure. Anything other than lime is really “cheese”.

This would basically answer your question. But all the nonsense about water that these people spread on these “quantum” and “lateral thinking” Kaufmich TV channels primarily serves to undermine the new science of hydrogen water. People fantasize about Emoto ice crystals and their beautiful shapes, which are said to have a “cellular effect”. Have you ever seen a living cell that was frozen? Even if we suck an ice cube, it is only absorbed when it has reached 37 degrees C, meaning it can flow again and therefore has a completely different structure. “Hex” agonal water is mainly found at the poles, and it is not drinking water, but human stupidity.

What is certain today is that hydrogen-rich water in non-frozen form has a health benefit because it is a very effective form of delivering hydrogen gas to parts of the body that require therapy. The same applies with less evidence for hydrogen inhalation, infusion and topical H2 gas applications.

The benefit of raising the pH value of water, as water ionizers strive for, is rather weakly scientifically proven compared to a high hydrogen concentration. Nevertheless, there is a positive experience with it that has been proven for almost 90 years, which I personally also share.

Kind regards /with kind regards
Karl Heinz Asenbaum
Georgenstr. 110 / 80798 Munich
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Dear Mr. K,

This is a common question and I have commented on it several times. For example in the “Service Handbook for People”. And under the FAQs about calcium, Roberts, Töth in my book “Electroactivated Water”. You can download both books as PDFs for free via the link list. https://aquavolta.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Linkliste-Asenbaum-aktuell.pdf

Or here in the Aquacentrum FAQ collection I wrote the following:

Increased calcium content in alkaline activated water?

Eberhard P.: In your video lecture “The Redox Revolution” you talk about an increased calcium content in alkaline activated water. You can also see this on the bottles when a whitish limescale separates after a while. I really believe in drinking activated water, but isn't there a risk of hardening of the arteries if I drink it constantly?

• Iron is good for the blood, but you can also use it to cast cannons and wage wars. And it's the same with calcium. You can build houses with it or prisons. The police are not to blame for the crime. The body contains the miracle weapon calcium: It is a buttery-soft alkaline earth metal, but it combines so readily with acids that it is practically not found in its pure form.
• Limestone (CaCO3 calcium carbonate), for example, is a compound of carbon dioxide with the alkaline earth metal. When carbonic acid rain seeps through limestone, it dissolves and releases, among other things, ionized calcium into the water. Incidentally, most of the limestone in our latitudes comes from the corals of the ancient seas. We don't need to buy coral calcium from the island of Okinawa. Coral calcium is already in our tap water! However, just because it comes from coral doesn't mean it's organic or even organic! Minerals are and will always remain inorganic by nature.
• Ca ions, together with phosphorus ions, build our skeleton or regulate the signals from our nerves. Calcium ions are vital. Our body contains around 1 kg in its purest form. Calcium is the mineral we need most because you can't put furniture in a house without walls. That is why there is no upper limit in the Drinking Water Ordinance. If there is too little of it, the waterworks are obliged to add calcium.
• Ca ions are also our most powerful reserve force against the army of acids. They save the vital alkaline body environment when the foot soldiers of the much smaller sodium and magnesium soldiers are exhausted. In order to eliminate excess acids, they capture them with their electrical ionic force. But what to do with the many prisoners when the capacity of the prison camps is no longer sufficient due to the years-long war against acidification? Every organism regulates this differently.
• Fatty acids and amino acids captured by calcium can narrow vessels (arteriosclerosis) or become growths (e.g. calcified shoulder). Excess protein and fatty acids in the blood are to blame. In an emergency, it can only be eliminated using buffer substances. The buffer substance present in the largest amount is calcium. Therefore, the consequences of hyperacidity are most often perceived as calcium “slags”.
• Uric acid trapped by calcium can promote stone formation. The culprit is the excretion of uric acid, which is usually prevented by alcohol abuse or certain antihypertensive drugs, not the Ca.
• Only when the bound acids are removed does the Ca become a free ion again and can be used again in an aqueous solution as a miracle weapon for the benefit of the body. For this purpose, among other things, 100 million people drink alkaline activated water.

The GDr. I didn't know Petrov yet. His statement that calcium carbonate builds up around cells is more bizarre than original and lacks any scientific evidence to back it up. However, I already know the station. One of the comments asks that they invite me. But they won't do that because then I would have to bring a four-figure amount with me. They live off pseudo-scientists who buy “interviews” that are actually PR films. The station even sells some of the products advertised. Dipl. Ing. Yasin Akgün, had already bought some airtime there and regretted it very much because in such an environment you quickly get a reputation as a “tinfoil hat”. That's why I wouldn't even go there for free. People look at me like that too. 

Funny, the inventor of membrane electrolysis in 1802, which is still used today to separate acidic and alkaline water, was also called Petrow. The alkaline water issue is no longer important these days because the hydrogen component is much more important for health. That doesn't mean that if you have serious problems with acidity - and especially if you have arteriosclerosis - alkaline hydrogen water is the best option 

Kind regards /with kind regards

Karl Heinz Asenbaum

Mr. Asenbaum How do you rate reverse osmosis systems from Hpreiss and Truu Water?

Dear Mr. Asenbaum,

I have been dealing with the topic of water for a long time out of personal interest.

This email is simply to thank you for all your actions, your commitment, sharing your interview, preparing the topic, for example in the form of short videos, so that I can understand everything too.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for that.

Now I'm not a professional like you, I just know that there are various cleaning systems out there, of which if you want to spend some money, the reverse osmosis process with subsequent swirling/activation if necessary is a good choice. That's the technology. There are many providers, some of which are probably very similar, but others offer rather inferior products.

I find enrichment with hydrogen very exciting and have been able to learn a lot about it through your videos, among other things.
I would be pleased if you could tell me - more as a water expert than as a representative of a specific brand - how you rate the products from hpreiss and truu water, although in my opinion truu does not currently offer a variant with hydrogen enrichment.

(Oh...since you don't really live around the corner, I was hoping to be a little closer to the lots of interesting information you keep sharing by connecting via your Facebook page. So I had one for you Short message sent via Facebook/messenger. But I think you spread the information about water through other channels. Therefore the connection request may not seem appropriate.)

Thank you very much for your help and your time.
Sunny greetings from Düsseldorf
Ulrike K.

Dear Ms. K.,

Thank you very much for your great praise and your questions. I recommend that you work through my link list in advance, as I can only go into it very briefly here. https://aquavolta.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Linkliste-Asenbaum-aktuell.pdf

Reverse osmosis is the most complex filter process and removes both pollutants and useful dissolved substances such as minerals from the water. It only makes sense if the water contains pollutants that cannot be removed by the first 3 stages of a reverse osmosis system (sediment/activated carbon/ceramic filter). In Germany this is necessary in around 10% of cases. The osmosis membrane as the 4th filter stage then creates almost pure water, which does not meet any standard for drinking water because it has the property of filling up with anions and cations like a sponge and thereby demineralizing the body. As a result, people start eating more than is required in terms of calories to compensate for the missing minerals from water intake. Drinkers of pure osmosis water are therefore usually overweight. In my opinion, the fact that in areas where the natural water is almost as soft as osmosis water, more coronary diseases occur, especially in men, is not a direct effect of the water, but rather the urge for over-calorie nutrition that arises there.

I therefore strongly advise against long-term drinking of reverse osmosis water that has not been re-mineralized.
By activation I only mean the activation measured electrically in millivolts by dissolved hydrogen gas, which leads to a very low redox potential. Turbulence, on the other hand, has the exact opposite effect because it creates oxygen. i.e. high redox potential introduced into the water.
The two never fit together.

Hydrogen-rich water occurs naturally in a few healing springs, but is extremely rare and the hydrogen content is practically impossible to bottle, as hydrogen-rich water is very sensitive due to rapid degassing into the atmosphere. Therefore, over the last 17 years, while I have been working on this topic full-time, processes for increased enrichment and preservation of hydrogen water have been invented. Why hydrogen-rich water is the most interesting variant of drinking water treatment (besides filtering) can be found in detail in my book “Electroactivated Water – from healing water from the socket to hydrogen therapy” mentioned in the links.

I have been involved in some new techniques for production and preservation in the form of the “Aquavolta” brand I developed, which is sold worldwide through licensing partners such as www.aquacentrum.de. Please forgive me if I generally give cautious assessments of other brands or distribution systems. The colleagues in question certainly put a lot of effort into their products. However, I am usually one of the first to find out about new technologies, and in fact we always develop a new Aquavolta product as soon as a sensible technological leap in water treatment becomes apparent. However, the two systems you asked about, hpreiss and truu, are actually neither new nor interesting to me.
hpreiss has 2 hydrogen devices on its website: The Hydron, a Koranic device with which I was able to measure a hydrogen concentration of 1300 ppb maximum. Today's systems achieve significantly more than 2000 ppm. As well as the Hydrogen Mini, which I haven't been able to test myself yet. However, hpreiss states the following: “Concentration of dissolved hydrogen ions: 700 – 1100 ppb”. From today's perspective, this is downright ridiculous for a hydrogen booster. Apart from the fact that the company apparently has no idea about the technical terminology: Because “hydrogen ions” are H+ ions. Chemically, they have about as much to do with hydrogen gas as the name “Gustav” has to do with the word “inn”.

The scope of truu products is not described in more detail on the website. It seems to be pure filters. In any case, it is a multivel marketing structure sales, which explains the prices of over €3000. I think these prices are misleading customers. As with the structural distribution of the Kangen devices, which are also far overpriced, there are indications of a connection with Scientology organizations. https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/karlsruhe/truu-wasserfilter-scientology-100.html

Kind regards /with kind regards
Karl Heinz Asenbaum

Ionizers: “Good luck with gout…”? Could also be a shot in the foot

Dear Mr. Asenbaum,

I would like to contact you again with a question. I intend to recommend the EOS Genesis water ionizer to friends, which I have had for 2 years and enjoy using.

I recently came across a note from Roland Bitz from a phone call I had with him in 2012: Provitec Drinking Water Treatment Technology 94575 Windorf.

He speaks against ionization:

• Ionizers: “Good luck with gout…”? It can also be a shot in the foot: the alkaline water that is produced ultimately has nothing to do with deacidification, but rather the pH value is raised.

Alkaline water is about neutralizing the acids in the body. But I can't rinse acid out, you have to neutralize it and you do that with minerals: calcium, magnesium (base powder). Positive and negative ions are separated in the ionizer. Water is split into hydrogen ions and oxygen ions. This increases the hydrogen content and thus the pH value, which says nothing other than “hydrogen potency”. But the amount of minerals is not increased, which means that the conductance remains the same - only the display is higher. Completely stupid for deacidifying the body. It's like writing "100 g" instead of "1000 g" on a package of food. That's why there's no more in the pack. The display has nothing to do with the pH value that we use to neutralize acid in the body. This is only possible with minerals. The mineral value remains unchanged with ionizers. How are they supposed to increase if I don't add any? Theoretically, it would be possible to separate water into one with many minerals and one with few.

If you could help me briefly, I would be grateful.

Kind regards – Father Stefan L.

Dear Father L., 

Only the last sentence is correct. “Theoretically, it would be possible to separate water into one with many minerals and one with few.” That's exactly what a water ionizer like the Aquavolta EOS Genesis does.

And it doesn't just do that, it also separates hydrogen ion-rich H+ water from hydroxide ion-rich OH- water, i.e. acidic from basic. So it's very clear that you can use it to neutralize acids. However, you should leave the church in the village and not, like some sellers, claim that this will prevent the consequences of hyperacidity such as gout if you do nothing else and consume meat and beer every day. In any case, it’s not “idiotic”, because bases are bases and neutralize acids. However, to neutralize a glass of Coca Cola (pH2,7) to pH 7, you actually need 32 glasses of alkaline water. (see my book, which can be downloaded below, p. 14)

The gentleman who writes this seems to have no idea what an ionizer does. Because “oxygen ions” have nothing to do with it and do not appear in it. And although the “hydrogen content” is increased during electrolysis in alkaline water, that is not what increases the pH value. In fact, it is hydrogen ions (H+) that are drawn into the acidic water, which therefore has a lower pH value.

Much more important with ionized water than its low buffered basic pH value is the enrichment with hydrogen (as gas!! H2). This ensures a reduction in the redox potential by up to 1000 mV. See my book from page 59.

Water ionizers are now surpassed by hydrogen generators. However, these usually do not increase the pH value. Unless you ensure this through new mineral ceramics, as is the case with our latest development. Since these electricity-free devices have been available whose water tastes absolutely convincing, classic water ionizers have hardly been sold anymore. Find out more here. https://www.aquacentrum.de/produkt/aquavolta-h2-rocket-fuer-minerade-tabs-erhoehung-ph-wert-und-h2-gas-anreicherung/

Kind regards /with kind regards

Karl Heinz Asenbaum

Answer from Karl Heinz Asenbaum | Alkaline water is weakly buffered

Hello Mr. H.,

You really can't say that ionized water is "greatly buffered" when it takes 16 glasses to neutralize 1 glass of cola! What I show in the experiment is just that the ionized water is buffered twice as much as tap water. With tap water you need 32 glasses.

Incidentally, even a cola is only very weakly buffered compared to gastric juice.

With kind regards,
Karl Heinz Asenbaum

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Question about an article by “Dr. Sircus” against the basic hydrogen water

Hello Mr. Asenbaum,

The currently recommended devices create 1.5 mg/L hydrogen ions.

According to Dr. Sircus, it is these H ions that are responsible for healing success are responsible, not the alkaline water:

http://drsircus.com/medicine/increasing-the-lifespan-of-cells-with-megahydrate/

This value should therefore be given the greatest importance in the future and, above all, measuring how stable this parameter is after a long period of time Use remains. It should stop the plates becoming dirty drastically sink. The focus is on the development of future devices i.e. the highest possible H concentration and durability of clean plates.

Maybe I won't tell you anything new at all. If but….I’m happy. Maybe you already know devices that use it are specialized? Many greetings from Lake Constance

Ralph W.

Answer from Karl Heinz Asenbaum About the contribution by Dr. Sircus

Hello Mr. V.,

Dr. Sircus doesn't seem particularly competent or serious when he writes something like that. He copied most of the stuff on his website from somewhere bad anyway. It's not about ions, it's about H2, which is dissolved in alkaline water during electrolysis. This H2, which was still referred to as negative redox potential before 2008, has strong reducing, i.e. antioxidant, properties. That's why it works on all diseases that have to do with oxidative stress. That's a lot. However, there are also many diseases that have to do with hyperacidity.

The future devices being propagated by American market barkers today are having great difficulty ever achieving 1,2 mg/l of molecular hydrogen.

I test a new device like this almost every day. Already from 0,8 mg/l one speaks of a therapeutic content. That's why the hydrogen rich water devices that achieve exactly that are quite popular. However, today's best water ionizers create 1,6 to 2,9 mg/l and also provide bases, which is not only good for most people, but also makes the water taste better. Because if the water doesn't taste good, no matter how healthy it is, people won't drink it. If you can handle over 400 more pages of answers,
download my book.

www.aquacentrum.de/downloadlink-e-book-elektroaktiviertes-wasser-von-karl-heinz-asenbaum

And if you still have questions, please ask me and not to a copy + paste wrong circus.

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Reply from Yasin Akgün on October 28th. 2016:

Dear Eric,
Now we already know each other from before. So, you should know that every reverse osmosis system has several activated carbon pre-filters. These are often not given priority as coarse filters. HOWEVER! And as an expert you should be able to read this at least once in every better data sheet for a reverse osmosis membrane filter: Reverse osmosis membranes are not permitted to filter chemicals!!! You are only allowed to filter mineral salts, i.e. minerals, from my point of view, inorganic, non-bioavailable minerals, but you are NOT allowed to FILTER chemicals! As is often the case in the water industry, it is only made for one typical ingredient in water, namely minerals in this case.

So in every reverse osmosis system, the activated carbon pre-filter (which is also installed twice in ALL water ionizers), often there are several of them with different finenesses, filters the chemicals from agriculture, chemistry, the pharmaceutical industry, etc. It doesn't filter, it binds! That's a fact. You are welcome to bring me some speculative chatter from the sports teacher (Professeur in French) Vincent, or whatever.
I don't care what everyone does after actually filtering the chemicals, what's important is the knowledge that you don't need a reverse osmosis membrane to filter out all the pollutants. Not even for heavy metals, as there is at least one manufacturer that has installed selective heavy metal ion exchangers in its activated carbon filter media, which safely and reliably filters out lead, uranium, cadmium and the like.
If someone has copper pipes and has something against copper, then they can use reverse osmosis. Or for some other very special substances that can rarely be found in tap water, such as PFT (perfluorinated surfactants), then OK, then you need a reverse osmosis system. But otherwise not so much.
And nitrate, while we're at it, nitrate isn't actually a pollutant, but rather an indicator that agricultural poisons such as pesticides and insecticides are to be expected in the water. The higher the nitrate content, the higher these can be expected.

Therefore, what is your problem with the water ionizers. They do almost the same thing themselves, like reverse osmosis systems, namely freeing water from chemicals and then, in our case, instead of separating out all the minerals, they only separate out some of the acidic minerals.
But the most important thing is that it enriches the water with hydrogen, much more than any hydrogen ionizer. Only our hydrogen booster is an exception. I won't tell you why...
Do we want to continue this publicly?
Age

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Thomas N.: At a health fair someone told me that alkaline activated water is a thing of the past. The latest achievement with much more oxygen is Pimag water. But I didn't understand the difference. What do you mean?

In the magazine Nexus Magazine Issue 19, a woman Jan Roberts writes that consuming alkaline water causes health problems. Is that true?

Sylvia S.: I received a report by email from Dr. med. Ewald Töth, which I should distribute further. It represents a sharp criticism of the concept of alkaline activated water. Title: “The operation of water ionization devices and the possible effects of filtered, electrolytically reduced water in the human body.” What do you think about that?

In the following table you can see how a decrease in the redox potential in millivolts is related to an increase in the electron supply. In addition, another table shows the changes that occur with pH shifts in the area of ​​the hydroxide ions.

And that's why the steel wool doesn't rust in alkaline activated water, while it rusts in normal water. The free hydroxide ions are responsible for the basic effect. By definition, “basic” (alkaline) means nothing other than “more hydroxide ions than H+ ions”.

The basic one Property A liquid (pH value) must be differentiated from a basic one Effect, i.e. the ability to neutralize acids. The hydroxide ions do not all float freely through the water, but are partly associated with cations such as sodium, calcium, potassium or magnesium. These hydroxide ions bound to cations represent the buffer of water.

The opposite is the case with an acid: H+ ions and anions attract each other electrically. For example with hydrochloric acid H+Cl-. It is clear that a 10 percent hydrochloric acid dilution in water cannot be neutralized with a five percent sodium hydroxide solution (Na+OH-), since its base effect is only buffered by half as much. Based on these basic facts, Töth, and many others, come to the nonsensical claim that alkaline activated water has no alkaline buffering capacity at all (p.2) and therefore cannot neutralize acids. In fact, some acids in the body are no more buffered than alkaline active water. It must also be taken into account that due to the different mineralization of the starting water, there is also different buffering of the alkaline activated water. An alkaline active water from the Main Franconian hard water area is significantly more strongly buffered with cations than an alkaline active water from the Eiffel Volcano, even if both have the same pH value of 9,5.

In any case, the alkaline activated water has a neutralization advantage over the normal tap water from which it was obtained. To neutralize a glass of Cola, we needed 32 glasses of tap water from Munich, while only 15 glasses of alkaline activated water (pH 9,5) from the same tap water were required. (—>Roberts).

In all of this, one should not forget that our body also regulates its acid-base balance through a clever balance of stronger and weaker buffered fluids. One liter of strongly buffered gastric juice fluid with pH 1,5 is compared to 30-40 liters of the remaining body fluid, which is much weaker buffered. By drinking alkaline active water instead of more acidic liquids, we can have a significant positive influence on regulatory behavior.

Töth's further criticism of alkaline active water leaves the level of scientific discussion and relies on esoteric claims that cannot be refuted or confirmed due to a lack of connection to reality. Töth claims, among other things:

Tap water has already been destroyed energetically and would be further destroyed by both filtration and treatment in an electrolysis cell. As proof, he cites photos of ice crystals from “healthy” spring water and from filtered and electrolyzed water with a disturbed energetic structure, taken by the Japanese artist Masaru Emoto. —> Emoto does not describe himself as a scientist, in contrast to his imitators who propagate this type of ice photography as proof of the quality of their respective water, especially when no further proof of quality can be provided. By the way, some manufacturers of water ionizers have also commissioned such photos from Emoto, which look just as nice, but again, they prove nothing. Because ice is not water, as every school child should know! No Eskimo could meet his water needs from melted seawater ice if ice were the same as water! But ice separates most of the minerals apart from a few crystallization nuclei and pushes them out into water that is not yet frozen. After melting, we get completely different water than before, and the photograph of the ice crystal does not show the water that the photographers want to make statements about. The so-called “energetic destruction” of water cannot be proven with the photos.

If the esoteric term “energetic destruction of water” makes any sense at all, why not simply measure the electron content of water in negative form –> Redox potential? But Töth avoids such a scientific approach.

Instead, he shows so-called quantum fractal images to prove his claims. On his website www.qfb.at it says: “Water has a crystalline structure. Not only when frozen, but water maintains its crystalline structure up to a temperature of 65° Celsius.” However, this contradicts the undisputed scientific opinion that the water molecules in the liquid physical state suddenly shift spatially within teraseconds.

But it gets even stranger. Because he writes: “Dr. Ewald Töth & DI Peter Pfaffenbichler demonstrated in their laboratory, therefore it became possible to photograph the information of water not only in its frozen state, but also in liquid and dried form." You read that right: The gentlemen take photos of dry water! These are the minerals that remain after water evaporates. The absurdity of a method based on water without water is hard to beat. Well, if you can read coffee grounds, you can probably also read kettle stone. You usually come across such methods at esoteric fairs, right next to the card readers. Incidentally, the gentlemen charge €65 per “quantum fractal image” of a “dry water” sample.

Another of Töth's dogmas, contrary to natural science, is: “Healthy water is stable water” (p. 3). This is explained by the formation of clusters through hydrogen bonds, which, according to all established knowledge of chemistry and physics, are very unstable and it is precisely this maneuverability that makes life on our planet possible.

On page 6 of his paper he then explains: “Ionized water or electrolyte water is an unstable liquid with split-off water molecules.” In fact, during electrolysis, water molecules break down into the natural water ions H+ and OH-. This process occurs continuously in any water due to the so-called autoprotolysis of the water, and this does not result in “a molecularly torn, unstable liquid with reactive molecular fragments” that “enter the tissue structure of the cell too early and in the wrong places” (p.6). penetration.

Autoprotolysis is only enhanced by electrolysis so that the water can absorb more protons (H+ ions). Töth turns this natural mechanism of cell deacidification - every cell constantly produces an excess of acid that has to be disposed of - into a monstrous process, saying about the OH ion: “It robs the cell of the hydrogen portion it lacks and withdraws energy “But the cell wants to get rid of its hydrogen ions (H+) precisely because they are missing an electron and therefore there is an energy imbalance. As a result of deacidification, the cell does not lose energy, but rather gains energy. That is why alkaline activated water is sometimes referred to as “energy water”. Another absurd representation by Töth can also be found on page 6 of his treatise: “As soon as this artificially produced water comes into contact with the environment, it immediately loses the free electrons and the theoretically The existing alkaline effect no longer exists." Using the same logic, one could say: Once Aspirin® has eliminated the headache, its pain-relieving effect no longer exists. Because the antioxidant effect consists solely in the transfer of electrons, and this is during the —> Relaxation time, which by no means ends immediately upon contact with the environment, but can last for a few days, is clear and measurable using scientifically proven methods. —> Redox measurement.

The excess of hydroxide ions in the alkaline active water lasts even longer, so it is not a theoretical base effect, but a very manifest, measurable effect that works like quantum fractal images of “dry water” without any mumbo jumbo.

Töth's further claim (p.7) that alkaline activated water lacks the alkaline minerals to bind acids is quite grotesque, because there are actually more alkaline minerals than in normal starting water, which can easily be shown, for example, with a water hardness test strip. which can make the excess calcium and magnesium ions visible. But perhaps it is precisely this plus in minerals that is a thorn in Mr. Töth's side, as it may prevent the sale of his numerous basic mineral mixtures offered on the Internet under the protected trademark “Dr. Ewald Töth®” makes it difficult. In fact, alkaline active water is in direct competition with Töth's products.

According to Töth (p.7), alkaline activated water “is not a high-quality food.” Töth does not specify what he means by high-quality food. But one wonders why the FX Mayr doctor Dr. Thomas Kropp reports the following in an article about alkaline activated water (“The strongest antioxidant of our time – the high value of water in therapy” magazine COMED, ​​issue 07/06): “A group of researchers around the cell biologist Sanetaka Shirahata has discovered the antioxidant The effects of various waters and vitamin C were examined. He was able to impressively show that the amount of free radicals in muscle cells were reduced by 30% each using the water from the tunnel in Nordenau, the springs from Hita (Japan), Tracote (Mexico) and activated water. Vitamin C only caused a reduction of 20%. In comparison, mineral water and tap water even showed an increase in cell pests.” Or the spa doctor Dr. Walter Irlacher, who describes alkaline activated water in our “Service Handbook for People” (Munich 2006) as the “perpetuum mobile of deacidification”. Or the doctor Dina Aschbach in her book “Ionized Water – The Modern Medicine of Our Time”, Hochheim 2010, writes: “On the one hand, this water itself has antioxidant abilities, but on the other hand, it can increase the effect of antioxidant enzymes (SOD, catalase) and non-enzymatic antioxidants such as vitamin C, flavanoids or quercetin many times over.” (p. 60). “Reduced water reduces the destruction of DNA by 70%!” (p. 61) The food researcher Prof. Dr. In his book “Vom Living in Food – The Bioelectrical Connections Between Food Quality, Nutrition and Health” (Bad Dürkheim, 1997), Manfred Hoffmann considers a low redox potential to be the decisive parameter of food quality. So why shouldn't water with an extremely low redox potential be a high-quality food?

On page 8, Töth writes on the question “Does alkaline water have more oxygen?”: “As soon as ionized water comes into contact with air, oxygen becomes volatile (this is prevented by special membranes in the device) or it is bound back into a water molecule.” This is wrong because the oxygen released by electrolysis outgasses on the anode side, i.e. with acidic water, not with alkaline water. With alkaline water, on the other hand, excess hydrogen gases out immediately after it leaves the gas-tight cathode chamber of the electrolytic cell and cannot be dissolved in the water. This has absolutely nothing to do with the special membranes of the electrolytic cell. The outgassing of oxygen and hydrogen is simply prevented by the fact that the electrolysis cell in a flow electrolysis device has a pressure-tight housing. With a top ionizer, on the other hand, the two electrolysis gases constantly escape during the production of the basic and acidic types of activated water.

In fact, Töth's false argument distracts from the actual core of the question, namely whether alkaline water actually contains more oxygen: Of course it does and this is actually very easy to understand if you look at the processes involved —> Electrolysis Knows: Acidic water contains less oxygen because some of the molecular oxygen outgasses and is therefore missing from the remaining water. Conversely, hydrogen gases out of the basic activated water and is therefore missing from the remaining water, while hydroxide ions (OH-) remain. So it's not about the mobile oxygen dissolved as a gas in the water, but about the molecularly bound oxygen. This is actually present in significantly larger numbers in alkaline water. While a glass (0,3 l) of tap water (pH 7,8) has 0,310 x 1020 oxygen atoms, alkaline water with pH 10 has 5,0 x 1020 oxygen atoms, i.e. more than 16 times as much (calculation by S.Whang, Der Way back to youth, Norderstedt 2006, p. 18).

Since oxygen is relatively heavy compared to hydrogen, 1 liter of alkaline activated water is also slightly heavier than a liter of normal or acidic water. The oxygen contained in the hydroxide ions (OH-) can produce 4 water molecules and 2 oxygen molecule from 1 hydroxide ions through the following energy-generating reaction, releasing 4 electrons to buffer free radicals: 4 OH- 2 H2O + 1 O2 + 4e-.. When Töth claims that the oxygen would be bound back into a water molecule, he is ignoring the most important part of the reaction equation mentioned, namely the energy-giving release of oxygen. Dietmar Ferger writes in his book “Fountain of Youth Water” (Weil am Rhein, 2011, p. 77): “If the lymph has an alkaline pH value through constant drinking of activated water, it receives a supply of oxygen that can be accessed at any time – for example for sporting activities. “Since the reaction just mentioned releases energy in the form of 4 electrons, it is also wrong when Töth claims on page 8: “Just as much energy must be used for this process to restore its original natural structure as before was applied to the electrolysis for separation. This energy is withdrawn from the body.” Töth simply reverses the facts.
Regarding saliva, Töth writes (p. 9): “If ionized electrolyte water gets into the mouth and the saliva has a pH value of 6 and 6,5, this base effect is immediately neutralized (…) The OH does not combine with an acid , but immediately with the opposite polarity hydrogen.”In fact, what Töth is describing here is the process of neutralization, namely when OH- and H+ combine to form water. An acidic saliva of pH 6 to 6,5 is recommended by Dr. med. Walter Irlacher viewed this as an indication of chronic hyperacidity. If this can be raised to values ​​above pH 7 by drinking alkaline active water, this is a first step against chronic hyperacidity and the risk of tooth decay is also reduced because the tooth enamel is then no longer attacked by saliva.

Töth's test for checking the acid-neutralizing effect of liquids (p. 10) is not comprehensible. He wants to compare a base-mineral mixture in water with alkaline active water. However, it does not specify the type of base-mineral mixture.

Johan K.: The more you look into “alkaline water” on the internet, the more unsure you become!

For example, here on the site they don't write positive things about it: www.bestwater.de/faq/147-was-ist-basisches-wasser What's really about it, who can you believe the most, or...?

For the sake of simplicity, I have taken the article from the website mentioned (2016.08.06) and commented on it in color in the text:

The alkaline water

“Recently, various suppliers have been selling devices for prices ranging from €800,00 to over €3.000,00 that break down tap water - usually after a low-performance activated carbon pre-filtering - into a basic and an acidic component.”

Answer: It is not for nothing that activated carbon is one of the standard components of almost all water filters. In many cases it is sufficient. However, activated carbon (without selective ion exchange resins) does not filter heavy metals, so it is good to detect them Use a water filter with additional components (selective ion exchange resins)., which are recommended in addition to activated carbon for some water ionizers.

“The minerals dissolved in the water are separated using electrolysis using two electrodes to which a direct voltage is applied. The metal ions are enriched in one component, while the non-metal ions collect in the other component. The water is also broken down into hydroxide ions ((OH- = basic) and hydrogen ions (H+ = acidic).”

Answer: This is correct, but not complete. Molecular hydrogen also collects in the cathode chamber where drinking water is produced. This is the main goal of a water ionizer. The basic hydroxide ions are just a desired byproduct. They contribute to deacidification.

“If the starting water contains e.g. B. table salt (NaCl), a base is formed on one side, i.e. caustic soda, chemically NaOH, and on the other side, hydrochloric acid (hydrochloric acid), chemically HCl. The caustic soda now has a basic pH value and is referred to as “alkaline water” by the device suppliers, while the hydrochloric acid has an acidic pH range and is therefore “acidic water”. By the way, anyone could make such “alkaline water” very cheaply, even without expensive electrolysis equipment, by adding a few crumbs of caustic soda or caustic potash to pure water.”

Answer: This is a misunderstanding of a water ionizer based on complete ignorance of electrolysis processes. A lye consists of hydroxide ions and an associated lye residue - in the example given, the lye residue would be the sodium ion, each of which is opposed by a single hydroxide ion. In alkaline water from a water ionizer, which is correctly called “active water” or “reduced water”. One of its most important characteristics is that it has no lye character, because only the negligible lye residues from drinking water are present in the milligram range per liter. But the basic activated water has excessive amounts of free hydroxide ions, which are not counteracted by any lye residue. An example: If you were to bathe in a sodium bicarbonate with a pH of 12, you would be burned and a case for the undertaker. If you bathe in alkaline active water pH 12, your skin is only gently degreased and you feel great because the dissolved hydrogen penetrates your body.

“Depending on the area, tap water naturally also contains other substances such as: B. Calcium sulfate (gypsum), which is then broken down by electrolysis into calcium hydroxide (slaked lime) and sulfuric acid.”

Answer: Here too, basic knowledge of electrochemical processes is missing. Firstly, there is no plaster in the tap water, otherwise the water pipes would have to be constantly replaced because they are covered with plaster. Calcium sulfate is a solid. But that is not the case here because Calcium sulfate is dissolved in water and through the water in Calcium ions and sulfate ions falls apart. Through electrolysis, the calcium ions and the sulfate ions are separated into the cathode and anode chambers of the electrolytic cell. The calcium ions initially form calcium mineral colloids with molecular and atomic properties Hydrogen, which occurs during electrolysis arises. Only when the hydrogen gradually outgasses after production do the calcium ions form compounds, usually with carbonic acid, which form in the water or when air comes into contact with the atmosphere calcium carbonate react, which then falls out as a white veil from the alkaline active water if you don't drink it immediately. However, calcium carbonate is not harmful. Many buy it as nutritional supplements. In the case of electroactivated water, calcium hydroxide can also be formed through the reaction with hydroxide ions. This is characterized by the fact that it does not precipitate out of the water, but rather floats on top. However, this does not happen with household ionizers; it can only be observed with pot ionizers, which produce a pH > 11 in a very slow process. However, electrolyte water with pH > 11 is not alkaline active water for drinking, but so-called catholyte water, which is used for cleaning purposes.

“A variety of healing effects are now attributed to “alkaline water” on the grounds that most people’s organisms are over-acidic and that alkaline water would remedy this over-acidification.”

Answer: The source information for these “seals” is missing here. The fact that most people's organisms are hyperacidic is not only the opinion of many doctors, but is also supported by the scientifically proven fact that the bicarbonate level in the blood begins to fall dramatically from the age of 45. However, bicarbonate is the most important buffer against any acid load, whether through diet, exercise or other stress. Since the majority of the population, at least in industrialized countries, is over 45 years old due to the age pyramid, the statement that most people's organisms are acidic is obvious. Of course, there are also other methods to counteract hyperacidity, for example through infusions of bicarbonate. However, this is a medical emergency measure. The purpose of drinking alkaline active water is to make a “perpetuum mobile of deacidification” (Dr. med. Walter Irlacher) your daily companion by continuously drinking mildly alkaline water, instead of just drinking neutral tap water or even acidic mineral water. which in any case cannot prevent hyperacidity problems so easily.

“A number of individual case reports are cited as “evidence” according to which numerous health problems have improved. However, there is no scientific evidence that alkaline water has a health-promoting effect.”

Answer: This unfounded claim can be falsified by simply using the search terms “alkaline water” “studies”. There is now far more scientific work on the topic that has been recognized as the main health factor in the effect of alkaline activated water: dissolved hydrogen. See for example: http://www.molecularhydrogenfoundation.org/studies/

“It is even argued that one liter of “alkaline water” prepared in this way has the antioxidant power of ten lemons, although lemon juice is not at all alkaline, but on the contrary is extremely acidic (pH value 2,4). Such a comparison is not convincing, but rather proves the opposite.”

Answer: This argument rather demonstrates the author's complete ignorance of the subject.  The fact that alkaline active water is alkaline has nothing to do with its antioxidant effect. Otherwise lye would also be antioxidant. The antioxidant effect of alkaline activated water has been proven many times and is solely due to the amount of dissolved hydrogen that is produced during electrolysis in the cathode chamber. The dissolved hydrogen reduces the redox potential of the water in an extraordinary way. Whether it is 10 times stronger than lemons depends primarily on the quality of the lemons. Sometimes it can be more and sometimes less. The antioxidant power of lemon depends primarily on ascorbic acid (vitamin C). Vitamin C, which has been oxidized by the aging of the lemon, can be replenished very well by molecular hydrogen, like all other antioxidants in our body.

“Why not “alkaline water”. healthy is

An alkaline effect would not even extend beyond the stomach, as the stomach's digestive juice is highly acidic and would immediately neutralize the alkaline water. This would rather weaken the stomach acid and the body would have to counteract by producing more stomach acid.”

Answer: This is another argument that shows the author's lack of competence. The water flows via the so-called “Little Stomach Street” over the digestive sac of the stomach, in which the stomach acid and the chyme are located (which, by the way, is water-repellent and does not mix with it), directly via the gatekeeper into the intestine. In addition, it was experimentally clarified by Prilutsky and Bakhir that even if mixing occurred, the effect on the gastric juice pH value would only be 0,1 pH, because alkaline activated water is not lye, but alkaline activated water. More about stomach acid and alkaline water in this video.

“According to reports from Japan, gastrointestinal problems have already occurred in many cases, especially in older people, who are often no longer able to produce sufficient stomach acid.”

Answer: After 12 years of research, I have been unable to locate these alleged reports from Japan. There is nothing like this in the scientific literature. Therefore, a reference to the source would be desirable. It is true that older people often no longer produce enough stomach acid. However, there is, for example, the theory of the Korean Sang Whang (reverse aging) that drinking alkaline water stimulates gastric juice production again.

“However, stomach acid is extremely important for digestion because the protein-splitting enzymes in the stomach are only active in the acidic pH range. Since the proteins can no longer be sufficiently broken down into amino acids, the body's own proteins cannot be formed and the undigested waste products can lead to allergies. Certain vitamins and minerals can no longer be adequately absorbed.
Stomach acid that is too weak also does not form a sufficient barrier for parasites, which can then enter the organism and settle in the tissue.”

Answer: See above: It's experimental by Prilutsky and Bakhir It has been clearly proven that the pH value of the stomach cannot be changed in such a way that digestive enzymes are blocked, even by drinking alkaline active water pH 10.  The stomach pH remains unchanged even when diluted 100 times with alkaline active water and all digestive functions function perfectly.

“Unstable redox potential

Some suppliers of water ionizers advertise that the water produced with these devices releases electrons and binds free radicals through the resulting redox potential.
However, the redox potential of “ionized water” is so strong that it disrupts cellular redox signaling molecules that are central to the cell’s immune function.”

Answer: Some previous water ionizer suppliers actually have from “free electrons” fabricates. That free radicals be neutralized by electron donors, which is why they are used antioxidants is generally known.

However, the electrons available in basic water are not free-floating, but rather stored in dissolved hydrogen. Now measure that Redox potential of hydrogen-rich water, a redox reaction occurs at the measuring electrode in which the  easily oxidized hydrogen releases its electrons. This creates the extremely negative redox potential of alkaline activated water. It shows that water has an immense willingness to give up electrons, i.e. to have an antioxidant or reducing effect. The speech of “Redox signaling molecules” is pseudoscientific nonsense. This is based on that ASEA™ structural sales invented term that is completely unknown in science “Redox signaling molecules”. There is no such thing and that is why these fantasy structures cannot be disturbed.

“On the other hand, this redox potential of “ionized water” is unstable under an air atmosphere and is lost very quickly through storage or transport.”

Answer: The fact that the half-life of the negative redox potential is an average of 3 hours, depending on the water composition, when exposed to the atmosphere under normal pressure is due to the outgassing of molecular hydrogen (Henry's law). There is hardly any hydrogen in the atmosphere, so the hydrogen partial pressure between the water and the atmosphere is equalized. This is also called “—> Relaxation time”.

To counteract the premature loss of dissolved hydrogen, water bottles are filled and stored with hydrogen water without air pockets. More on this in a separate FAQ post: Storing alkaline water

“In order to achieve an optimal redox potential, no “basic water” is required. Many plant-based foods contain antioxidant vitamins A, C and E, which are much more effective at protecting our cells from free radicals.”

Answer: This is completely wrong. Among all those mentioned here antioxidants is molecular hydrogen the smallest and finest, which, in contrast to the previously mentioned molecularly larger antioxidants, can also penetrate into the cell nucleus and is there the most dangerous of all free radicals (Hydroxyl radical) can neutralize directly. Outside the cell, molecular hydrogen recharges used antioxidants of larger molecules, including the body's own Glutathione, catalase, superoxide dismutase and thus contributes to one higher antioxidant ability of the body at.

“Alkaline water” does not make you alkaline

Most foods that have an alkaline effect in the body do not have an alkaline pH value in the state in which they are consumed, just as acid-forming foods can be alkaline in their initial state.
Fruits, vegetables and leafy salads contain much more minerals than water, including ionized water.”

Answer: This is a milkmaid's calculation - scientifically speaking  It was around 100 years old when it was still believed that metal ions were responsible for the pH value. In fact, it is the hydroxide ions that make up the metal ions that make up the lye residue. It is the “fairy tale of the alkaline lemon” and other so-called “alkaline foods”. A popular error does not become the truth even if it is repeated en masse. According to the biologist Dr. U. Warnke  There is no food that is alkaline when measured directly. However, I have found at least one thing, namely breast milk, which is slightly alkaline. But this is the exception. In principle, you can eat whatever you want as long as you don't eat so much that your lungs can't get rid of the carbon dioxide. That's why athletes are generally healthier than lazy people who eat just as much.

So how does the claim come about, for example? a lemon has an alkaline effect?

This error is based on a flawed theory of... food researcher Ragnar Berg from 1913 and has been written off again and again since then like the fairy tale of many “Iron in spinach”. (Food and beverages, their composition and their influence on health, with special consideration of the ash components, Dresden, 1913.)

Mountain had burned the most common foods to ash, then dissolved the ash with the mineral residues in deionized water and determined the pH value of the ash solution. If there are many cationic minerals/metals left, the pH value rises above 7 and the result is a supposedly alkaline food. If more anions are present, the pH value drops below 7 and, according to Berg, the result is an acidic food. Apart from the incorrect concept of acid at the time, where cations instead of hydroxide ions were considered bases: Ragnar Berg simply omitted from his measurements the organic acids that were vaporizing to the sky as carbon dioxide in his laboratory chimney. As if we were eating the ashes of a lemon and not the lemon itself. However, our body also has to break down the organic acids and dispose of the carbon dioxide through the lungs.   

That's not a problem, argue the supporters of the alleged alkaline diet: we breathe out all the time. That's true, because The lungs are a very efficient disposal organ for organic acidic waste materials. But our chimney is not in Mr. Berg's laboratory, our chimney is our blood. Although blood is well buffered against acids, it can only transport an acid load to the lungs that lowers the pH value by a maximum of 0,1 pH. And in this small transport window for acids, the acids that require the kidneys also have to find space!

Therefore, “organic” citric acid is just as damaging to the body as an inorganic acid. The lemon has absolutely no alkaline effect. Our pH table for drinks is correct. And when you If you are hyperacidic, drinking a liter of orange juice is of no use. Therefore it is of course correct to say “Alkaline active water makes you alkaline“. Simply because the body then does not have to dispose of the organic acids of other drinks through the bloodstream.

“So if you want to alkalize your body, you can do it much more easily with these foods. In addition, the minerals in these foods are organically bound in chelate complexes and can be utilized by the body much better than those dissolved in water.”

Answer: Chelation is a method to make non-water-soluble heavy metals water-soluble. Alkaline and alkaline earth minerals are, however, usually completely water soluble and are therefore in ionized form in the water. They do not need to be chelated at all. They are already maximally bioavailablebecause they are in ionized form!

“Our bodies are actually often hyperacidic. But this is primarily due to a permanently poor diet and a lack of water supply. In addition to the acid-buffering foods, we also need water as a transport medium for the waste products.”

Answer: It's nice that the author now admits that acidification is a problem. It would then be good if he named some of these acid-buffering foods - apart from breast milk. I have already explained Ragnar Berg's humbug before.

“The whole thing cannot simply be neutralized by drinking “alkaline water” made with a water ionizer. A balanced diet combined with pure water helps much more in neutralizing free radicals.”

Answer: No. It does help to avoid higher acid loads, but not in the same way as alkaline activated water.

“Improvement of well-being through “alkaline water”?

Why do device providers advertise numerous healing claims and cases of improvements in health and well-being?
Because “alkaline water” helps in the end. On the one hand, water is a weak buffer and can have a relatively strong influence on the pH value, both towards acidic and towards alkaline, even with a small change in the ion concentration, without any significant physiological influence being expected. And because you believe in the effect, you will automatically drink more. Ultimately, “bad” water is better than no water at all, as at least the overall water shortage is permanently compensated for.”

Answer: That's not entirely wrong. However, the author forgets to mention that alkaline activated water with a usual drinking pH of 9,5 has about twice as strong deacidification ability as tap water with the usual pH of 7,4.

“What’s true about the claim that soft water is bad for the heart?

Proponents of alkaline water sometimes argue, based on a study from Finland, that people who live in areas where the tap water has a low level of hardness are more likely to suffer illnesses and deaths from heart attacks than in areas with hard water.
However, in this study, apart from water hardness, all other influencing factors such as diet, lifestyle, environmental impact and type of components in the water are not taken into account, which is even mentioned in the summary of the study. What was also not taken into account was how many people had other causes such as: B. Cancer (possibly even earlier). Every life comes to an end and the most natural death is through heart failure.”

Answer: Given the large number of participants in the Finnish study, the other mortality factors cannot be classified as significant. This 30-year statistical study of almost 19.000 Finnish men from 2004 showed that each additional level of hardness dH in drinking water reduced their risk of heart attack by 1%. The fact that proponents of alkaline water often cite this study is primarily due to the fact that The hardness of the alkaline active water from a water ionizer is approximately 30% higher than that of the service water fed to the water ionizer. A 10-year German study in the Wernigerode district shows the opposite relationship: “With the very soft and soft water, infarctions can be almost twice as common. In older patients, on average, they occur approximately one and a half times as often." (Source: Teitge, J., Heart attack incidence and mineral content of drinking water. http://www.mgwater.com/teitge.shtml)

“WHO: Minerals in water have no positive effect

According to the World Health Organization (WHO) drinking water guidelines, there is a widespread belief in Europe that natural mineral waters have medicinal properties or other health benefits due to their mineral content.
Many beverage providers exploit these traditional prejudices for their misleading advertising.
However, the WHO does not specify minimum amounts of essential nutrients in its drinking water guidelines and further points out that if drinking water with very low mineral contents were used in many countries around the world, no adverse health effects would have been reported (WHO guidelines for Drinking-water Quality, 6.5.2 Potential health benefits of bottled drinking-water p. 114).”

Answer: The WHO report “Calcium and Magnesium in Drinking Water – Public Health Significance” presents an overwhelming body of evidence suggesting that the Consuming harder water has significant survival benefits. How does the author come to his conclusion? (“Alkaline water” can lead to digestive and heart problems as well as complaints due to limescale deposits if consumed over a long period of time and is therefore not recommended.) This is unsubstantiated and may be interest-driven misinformation.

"Source: www.worldtimes-online.com Author: Hans-Peter Bartos”

Answer: Of course we have something to say about the original article Hans Peter Bartos was written, from which this Bestwater dissenting article was created, also a whole FAQ article was created:

www.aquacentrum.de/faqs/ist-basisches-wasser-ungesund/

For more information, please read the following links under the FAQ “Oppositions against alkaline water”: https://www.aquacentrum.de/faq/

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Andrea G.: Yesterday I had a representative come and measure the water from my water ionizer. It actually has more parts per million than tap water! I thought the filter took out all the pollutants! Now, the man says, there are even more and he advises me to get a reverse osmosis system.

This is a well-known juggler's trick.

 

Great TV report about reverse osmosis water from Wassertankstelle / TRUU:

 

hr, Hessischer Rundfunk defacto on September 2.9.2019nd, XNUMX, Good or bad drinking water – How useful are water filters:

 

www.hr- Fernsehenen.de/versanden-az/defacto/versanden/gutes-oder-besseres-trinkwasser—wie-sinnvoll-sind-wasserfilter-,video-101028.html

Hiltrut G.: During a stay in Bad Füssing many years ago, I learned from a lecture by Dr. med. Walter Irlacher got to know alkaline activated water and purchased a water ionizer. Since then, I have been drinking the alkaline water regularly and have also recommended or given this water to others. Now my son-in-law discovered an article on the Internet under: “Alkaline water – a business idea with harmful consequences” published on September 11.09.2013th, XNUMX by VISION AQUA by Hans-Peter Bartos, in which alkaline water is portrayed as unhealthy and harmful. We are now totally unsure whether we can continue to drink alkaline water.

I couldn't find this article on the Best Water sales website you mentioned. Such sniper actions against activated water by proponents of the —> Reverse osmosis and —> Turbulence have a certain tendency to migrate, as they could of course also be prosecuted under competition law due to their untrue claims. However, I am aware of this article because it has been sent to me several times with a request similar to yours. After I already read the articles —> Toth, —>Roberts, —> Twister and —> Reverse osmosis Although I have gone into the core of the argument in detail, I will only deal with new arguments from Halle's Dipl. Ing. Hans-Peter Bartos.

Please read more about the connection between minerals in water and the risk of heart attack, as incorrectly presented by Bartos, as well as the WHO's assessment under the keywords —> risk of heart attack, —> Stomach acid